2024-04-02 Steering Committee Meeting Notes

Date

Apr 2, 2024

Attendees

 

(bolded names indicate attendance)

Stakeholder group

SHIELD organization

Name of SHIELD member

organization designation

 

Industry Entity

Labgnostic, Inc.

Steve Box

primary

 

 

Andy Harris

alternate

 

Epic

Dan Rutz

primary

 

 

 

alternate

 

Biomerieux

Xavier Gansel

 

primary

 

 

alternate

 

Roche

Nick Decker

primary

 

Roche

Yue Jin - regrets

alternate

 

Healthcare Provider

Indiana University/Indiana University Health/Association for Molecular Pathology

Mehdi Nassiri, MD

primary

 

University of Wisconsin-Madison

Andrea Pitkus, PhD, MLS(ASCP)CM, FAMIA

primary

 

UT Southwestern Medical Center

Hung Luu

primary

 

UNMC

Scott Campbell - regrets

primary

 

Tufts Medical Center

Nanguneri Nirmala

primary

 

Sonic Healthcare

Eric Crugnale

primary

 

Former Quest Diagnostics

Collom, Craig D

primary

 

Patient Advocate

 

Stacy Lange - regrets

individual

 

Standards Organization

SNOMED International

 

James T. Case - regrets

primary

 

Monica Harry

alternate

 

Regenstrief Institute

 

Marjorie Rallins

primary

 

Eza Hafeza

alternate

 

HL7

 

Julia Skapik

primary

 

 

alternate

 

Professional Organization

Association of Public Health Laboratories

 

Riki Merrick

primary

 

Dari Shirazi

alternate

 

Graphite Health

 

Stan Huff - regrets

primary

 

 

alternate

 

CAP

 

Raj Dash - regrets

primary

 

 

alternate

 

AMP

 

Robyn Temple

primary

 

 

alternate

 

Governmental - non Voting

CMS

OPEN

primary

 

 

alternate

 

ONC

Sara Armson

primary

 

 

alternate

 

CDC

Hubert Vesper (/DDNID/NCEH/DLS)

primary

 

Jasmine Chaitram

alternate

 

NLM

 John Snyder

primary

 

 

alternate

 

FDA

 Keith Campbell

primary

 

 Victoria Derbyshire

alternate

 

Agenda and Notes

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Quorum evaluation (two-thirds (2/3) of the Voting Representatives shall be necessary to constitute a quorum for the transaction of business)

Currently we have 19 named members, so 2/3 = 12 (excluding chair and government members).

 

Open Meeting

Started 12:08 PM, ?? quorum reached

Report on progress to FDA Collaborative Community

Will have to fill out report for 2023 and goals for 2024

Follow up Items

  • Special Topic calls:

    • Next dates:

      • March 12 - UK Experience

      • April 9th - will use for USCDI Comments

      • May 14th - Netherlands

      • June 11th - Specimen CrossMapping Table

    • Proposed:

      • Use of standards and reporting across the different systems used in Cancer and Pathology - ask CAP folks if interested / someone available (Scott offered)

Review Working Groups progress

Setting milestones for deliverables should be NEXT for WGs: they will be captured here: SHIELD WG Deliverables and Milestone Grid

Feedback on ONC USCDI V5

Collating comments here: https://aphlinformatics.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SC/pages/2320302204

Discussion:

Working on Unique Device Identifier

If FDA UDI is the only Applicable Standards listed, it is required for exchange

If more than one are listed and no preference given, then both are allowed

If the code does not exist, then it ok to not send it

For testkit Identifier - what happens, when one system supports full UDI, but DI is the only one listed in USCDI as expected, then sending the full UDI would not meet requirements?

Ultimately we want the full UDI

should encourage translation capabilities to cover these situations

For implantable devices full UDI has been required since 2015 edition, so the functionality is in the system, but not in the module used for lab

Can we pull the instrument identifier from level 1 - using the same associated vocabulary as for the testkit identifier

COpied from page to record status at end of call:

  • Test Kit Unique Device Identifier

    • Current definitions

      • in USCDI: Numeric or alphanumeric code representing a collection of materials necessary to perform diagnostic tests with Applicable Vocabulary Standard(s) = FDA Unique Device Identification System (UDI System)

      • in USCDI+: Uniquely identifies the type of test (at minimum by using test name and manufacturer (similar to the make and model of a car)) that was used to obtain the Test Result Value. It is a device identifier and should be referenced using Device Identifiers (DI), when available. The DI is contained within the unique device identifier (UDI), created by manufacturer (Manufacturer requests UDI issuance, then provides DI, or can be pulled from GUDID database (https://accessgudid.nlm.nih.gov/).

      • COMMENT:

        • #1 - Definitions between USCDI and USCDI+ MUST be the same for this data element for the same use case

        • #2 - Update definition: Uniquely identifies the test reagent configuration (at minimum by using test name and manufacturer (similar to the make and model of a car)) that was used to obtain the Test Result Value. For FDA cleared/approved tests, refers to the unique device identifier (UDI), created by the manufacturer and available as a barcode and human readable text on the package.

    • Applicable Vocabulary for test kits that have no UDI - for those that are not FDA approved for example

    • Data Rationale portant to PHA and where currently available): For the clinical use case it is important to support result trending when obtained from different laboratories. For PH this is important to understand test performance, especially for EUA or new methods. For regulatory use case this can suport post-market surveillance and enhance migration of EUA to 510K applications as well as provide support for real world data use for research in general.
      This data element will require some implementation planning in order to get to the expected full FDA defined UDI and its elements. While each laboratory tracks the tests they perform, documenting the UDI is not currently done in the LIS and creating a way to make that easiest for laboratories must be part of the plan.

    • LDTs are out of scope for SHIELD, so we didn’t explicilty consider it, but overall that area needs to be examined for impacts

    • Update definition: Uniquely identifies the test reagent configuration (at minimum by using test name and manufacturer (similar to the make and model of a car)) that was used to obtain the Test Result Value. For FDA cleared/approved tests, refers to the unique device identifier (UDI), created by the manufacturer and available as a barcode and human readable text on the package.

    • Element specific Mapping, rather than just naming the resource:
      V2: OBX-17 or OBX-18 or PRT-10 or PRT-22
      FHIR: observation.device
      CDA:

  • Instrument Unique Identifier

    • Suggest to elevate this element into V5 as it supports the use of Test Kit Identifier

    • Using the same applicable vocabulary as for Test Kit Identifier

  • OVERALL:

    • Need to create a better model of relationships between the USCDI data element to help implementers understand the dependencies and cntext each of them provide for the use case they are implementing:

      • examples are

        • Need LOINC to represent the Performed Test by patient generated wearables like a continuous glucose monitor, that produces quantitative result values (with units of measure) and each one needs to be identified using the instrument identifier

        • units of measure and result values for quantitaitve results

        • specimen type and source site

Roadmap section updates in response to ONC comments on the SHIELD roadmap

  1. The roadmap mission section describes a broad vision of lab interoperability. However, the roadmap proposed solution is limited to the FDA use cases around In-vitro diagnostics (IVD) data, specifically populating the IVD data hub.  ONC suggests clearly describing the roadmap scope so the proposed solutions can be discussed within that context.

From last SC call: Nick will connect with Sara to get more context and then bring this to the IVD datahub group - then Nick will bring back here

  1. The roadmap identifies training and education needs around using LOINC as a barrier to interoperability. ONC suggests clarifying how the roadmap addresses this barrier. ONC recognizes that terminologies require training and education, and replacing LOINC with another standard will not address the barrier.

Update from Standards and Vocab WG about re-write of this section?

  1. There are several solutions proposed, including repositories and tools, which need to be further evaluated before ONC could fully support the roadmap.  ONC suggests the roadmap be updated to include details around feasibility, scalability and how the proposed changes can be integrated into the current laboratory ecosystem (e.g., regulation and industry).

Identify components that could improve the ecosystem infrastructure, and then highlight the places where these components can be advanced / sustained or made easier to implement. Would SHIELD be willing to consider to provide an exampel implementation - create the structures and bound terminologies to showcase how each element would be properly represented be working.

Looking for volunteer to tackle this re-write: For each of the Consideration sections we could certainly add a section on feasibility / requirements (e.g. continued funding for LIDR, better describing the intended use of ANY data element added, overall goal of LIDR, clearly delineate what is commonly used and is minimum, provide best practice and alternatives (non-preferred) - example would be metadata around the value sets in VSAC (curation / usage etc) to be able to ascertain quality) and highlight that other mechanisms are needed to achieve for adoption.

Antimicrobial result reporting

Placeholder to get back to

Related work at HL7 Europe:

Next calls

All SHIELD:

General Updates: April 23, 2024

Special Topic: OPEN for April - will use for UCSDI V5 Comment approval, if desired

SC: April 16, 2024 would be next

Also May 7th neither Chair nor Vicehair is available - should we just cancel or move to April 30th?

Adjourned

12:55 PM ET

From Chat:

Sara Armson, ONC 12:38 PM
Here is the applicable standard language: APPLICABLE VOCABULARY STANDARD(S) Standards listed are required. If more than one is listed, at least one is required unless otherwise noted. Where an applicable vocabulary standard has not been identified, this field will remain empty.

Dan Rutz 12:39 PM
I need to drop, I appreciate the specificity we're adding here.

Julia Skapik 12:39 PM
100% agreement on USCDI/USCDI+ concordance

Andrea Pitkus 12:45 PM
Are you talking about UDI support for implantable devices? As far as I know it has not been a requirement for lab data

I wouldn't expect a LIS to have immunization functionality,
https://www.healthit.gov/isa/uscdi-data-class/medical-devices#draft-uscdi-v5
also UDI is listed for implantable devices, so yes for a CGM (cont gluc monitor/pathch), but lab devices are not implantable in most all cases

Julia Skapik to Everyone 12:51 PM
sorry I keep going in and off camera but I am trying to squeeze in lunch

Marjorie Rallins 12:51 PM
apologies, have to drop off. great discussion.

Nick Decker 12:54 PM
Have to run - thanks all. Good discussion

Julia Skapik to Everyone 12:56 PM
Yes! bring all the components together as much as we can in comments
measurements are useless without units-- specimen is useless without site, on and on

Andrea Pitkus 12:57 PM
thank you all

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